OLD
United States · formed 1986 · last active 1995
OLD (an acronym for Old Lady Drivers) was a New Jersey band formed in 1986 by James Plotkin and Alan Dubin out of the remains of Plotkin's grindcore act Regurgitation, releasing its self-titled debut of tongue-in-cheek grindcore on Earache Records in 1988. Across subsequent records the group shed its grind roots for avant-garde and industrial metal on Lo Flux Tube (1991) before shifting almost entirely into techno, industrial and electronica on its final album Formula (1995), by which point OLD had contracted to a Plotkin/Dubin duo. This dramatic grind-to-electronic transformation makes OLD an era-split candidate in the atlas. After OLD dissolved, Plotkin and Dubin went on to form the experimental doom band Khanate.
SCORE PROFILE
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MEMBERS
- James Plotkinguitar, programming· also in James Plotkin, Jodis, Khanate, Khlyst, Lotus Eaters, Phantomsmasher, Scorn
- Alan Dubinvocals· also in Khanate
- Jason Evermanbass
- Herschel Gaerbass
- Ralph Pimenteldrums
CONNECTIONS
- James Plotkinpath →
James Plotkin in both — guitar, programming in OLD, guitar, bass, guitar-synth, production in James Plotkin. source ↗
- Jodispath →
James Plotkin of OLD was a member of Jodis, contributing to the albums Secret House (2009) and Black Curtain (2012). source ↗
- Khanatepath →
James Plotkin (guitar) and Alan Dubin (vocals) both left OLD and went on to form the experimental doom metal band Khanate. source ↗
- Khlystpath →
James Plotkin of OLD was a member of Khlyst, which released Chaos Is My Name (2006). source ↗
- Lotus Eaterspath →
James Plotkin of Lotus Eaters is a founding member of OLD (Old Lady Drivers), playing guitars and programming. source ↗
- Phantomsmasherpath →
James Plotkin was a founding member of OLD (Old Lady Drivers) as well as Phantomsmasher. source ↗
- Scornpath →
James Plotkin in both — guitar, programming in OLD, guitar in Scorn. source ↗
- Naked Citypath →
John Zorn is credited as "Producer [With Much Appreciated Help From]" on OLD's Lo Flux Tube (1991). source ↗
- Sumacpath →
James Plotkin (OLD) worked as producer/engineer on Sumac's "St Vitus 09/07/2018" — credited Mastered By. Multi-anchor credit (James Plotkin is a member of 8 atlas bands); tied to every home band per ruling 9 (2026-08-22). source ↗
- Zozobrasatellitepath →
James Plotkin (OLD) worked as producer/engineer on Zozobra's "Unreleased Tracks" — credited Mastered By. Multi-anchor credit (James Plotkin is a member of 8 atlas bands); tied to every home band per ruling 9 (2026-08-22). source ↗
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